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#1 User is offline   youen 

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 03:19 PM

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 05:12 AM

Finally! Aizen, Tousen, and Gin appear on the battle scene! And omg, ukitake's been speared! Although honestly in my opinion, I think the story's getting a little fuzzy. There are too many fights, and I can't remember everything, not to mention, the artwork is getting unclear as well. (Please don't kill me!)However, despite these downsides, I still like bleach. :D
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 01:09 PM

Bleach right now is so disappointing to me. Everything that happens just feels weird, even that fight with Ulquiorra(sp?) some chapters back.

First of all, I was not satisfied with the top three espada's resurrections or whatever you call it. Well, to be exact, I thought Halibel's was a let down and Stark's was just a failure. When I saw what the 10 espada represented(the embodiments of death), it sent my literature senses crazy. Then to see Stark in what's essentially a cowboy outfit...ultimate letdown. He does not seem like a lonely gunman at all. You know, like Clint Eastwood in The Good The Bad and The Ugly? I even thought that if he is the embodiment of loneliness that his power could affect the opponent psychologically (something like the psychological torture that Itachi often inflicted with his Mangekyo Sharingan).

Aizen has never impressed me and probably never will. I'm just happy that so far that he's simply a person who was evil from the start. If he's another one of those 'traumatic childhood' villians I will puke. The only other thing i like about him is his character design. Very easy on the eyes ^^

I hate to bring this up, but I seriously hope that someone from Soul Society dies. It's ridiculous that most, if not all of the deaths in Bleach has been villians. Some may say that Kishimoto is kill-happy but by killing off characters sometimes, not only makes the story more realistic but it takes care of slimming down a cast that is too big. That's another one of the problems with Bleach. There are way too many characters involved.

That being said, I'm happy if everyone else but Ukitake and Shunsui dies from Soul Society. I always happen to have the terrible luck of liking characters that end up being killed off by the author, so I'm hoping that Kubo spares Ukitake. If he should die, I'd like it to be from his illness.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 07:37 PM

I just download the last chapter too.
I like this manga too, despite the ravings of its author.
It seems that there will never be a end.

For the fact that some characters in the Soul socity should die, I do not think the author would.
Even if it's the most evil of them.

Personally, my favorite is the little genius hitsugaya, is not in this chapter (he has already finished his fight).

Despite what you may say, many people and I are addicted to this series.

Thanks for the hard work for all the download.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 05:09 PM

Ya, I agree, there are so many fights it's really hard to keep track of them all, especially their names (for me anyways) -__-" Though the fights seems pretty cool, it just feels like the chapters never end and it just keeps lagging on~ Though when thatt group appeared to help in the latest chapter, I go really excited!!! I now want to know how they're gonna kill those espadas that look impossible at the moment, like that "Time King" one (scaryyy~~ >_<) And to finally see they're moves and attacks! I'm pretty sure the next chapters will get much better and more interesting, can't wait for the next chapters!!! And if you havent guessed already; Im a fan of BLEACH~!!!!! :D
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 12:03 AM

I'm still in a bit of denial over the latest chapter. Granted Primo Espada is strong but...

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I didn't like how sudden/random it was. The kid just walked out of nowhere, and the next thing you know Ukitake was attacked.

Unohana is stuck in Hueco Mundo, and Kira must have used quite a lot of his reiatsu after healing Rangiku. The only other possible healer I can think of who can heal two captain classes with such injuries is not on the Shinigami's side, but on the Vizard's side.

Speaking of which. About time they made their appearance. They sure took a long time considering they already started moving out since the battle started. XD
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:55 AM

I was seriously sad when Ulquiorra died. I dunno, I really liked his character.
But anyways, I'm kind of excited with the new chapters, my sister and me love the Vaizards, and it's about time they showed up!
It's also about time that Aizen, Gin and Tousen finally made a move, though I seriously hope Ichigo starts being the center of attention again.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 07:09 AM

I wonder about that. Ichigo's still stuck in Hueco Mundo after all. And when would that Orihime heal Ishida! The guy has been one-armed long enough so shouldn't she put him out of his misery already???

If the Vizards couldn't fight Aizen and his gang back then, I don't think their chances are going to be high now. At most, I'm guessing that Urahara, Isshin and maybe Ryuuken might turn up in the battle at some point. Maybe Isshin will reveal that he's the king. Hah!

Yeah. Ulqi finally learnt the true meaning of a heart right before he died. I think he has some kind of feelings towards Orihime.

The next chapter should be quite interesting to see. Considering all their efforts are wasted, what with captains down, vice-captains injured, and that ice-thing undone, the battles will have to start from scratch again. Maa ne. Lisa-chan can take revenge for her former captain. Speaking of which, where is Nanao-chan? She's neither in Hueco Mundo nor Karakura town.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:07 AM

Since the Vizards appeared the story should get a little more interesting. I think that they should be much stronger than when they were "killed" by Aizen so maybe they have a chance to stand on an equal ground with those top Espada. I think the author shoud speed up the plot a little bit... and Isshin, Urahara and Ryuuken will probabli fight with Aizen, Gin and Tousen (as they are the most powerful)... or at least I'd like it to happen :)
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 03:34 PM

Lol, last chapter was great fail and great win at the same time D:

I was hoping to see a few more of Ukitake's and Kyoraku's abilities (maybe even a little bankai action?). Also, if you look closer, Wonderweiss plowed his LEFT hand through Ukitake's chest, yes?

Observe the next page. His RIGHT hand is all bloodied up. Either Wonderweiss went on a mad hand stabbing spree in between pages OR Kubo messed up really bad.

Also, it stands to reason that Barragan wasn't killed by Soi Fon's bankai. Impressive light show as it was, I doubted that could kill the personification of old age.

Enough of the whining, moving on to the positive aspects... the Vizards are back! In true badass, "We were too slow to join forces but just in time to save the day!" fashion.

I've been waiting for more than one year for this, man. Bring on the mask-wearing action, and some more bankais!
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 10:54 PM

There are so many people in this battle. Why is it that we don't see others in the background? You would think that you would see some.

Also, why is it that the 4 posts (for lack of a better word) which are so important are only guarded by one person each? I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind this.

Finally: How long does it take the Vizard to walk a few blocks? I mean, they left like 30 (?) chapters ago and are only now appearing. Long enough for Aizen to get bored and break out, in any case.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 11:05 AM

Lol... WHen I first saw the title I half thought the VIzards were going to side with Aizen... Now that would have been an unexpected twist.

And no, Kubo. THat doesn't even begin to explain to me satisfactorily why the Vizards took one bleeding year to come back.

On the other hand, I'm already waiting for some mask-wearing prod buttock action =D
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 04:30 PM

Vizards who are former lieutenants like Lisa should be on par with Adjuchas– Arrancar and former captains like Shinji should be on pare with VL- Arrancar which means that together with strong captains like Yamamoto and Shunsui (I don’t count Ukitake because with his illness and big hole in chest he is probably out for a long time and captains like Soifon and Hitsugaya because they already used their trumps and lost)they shouldn’t be taken lightly but Aizen is still confident and calm. I am even afraid to think about how many hidden trumps does he still posses.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:03 PM

I got kind of confused at first, because of how some of the panels on the pages were arranged and the flip flopping back and forth between all the battles, about what actually happened. Then poof, the trio of baddies appear and I just kind of sit and stare like ' what the heck just happened'. Then the Vizards appear, it makes you wonder why the heck they didn't just appear earlier.

On a side note, didn't anyone find Ulquiorra's passing kind of weird? I don't know how to explain it, it just didn't like hit me that he actually passed until like a few chapters after.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:19 PM

The artwork and layout in fight scenes are always a bit strained.

Im still wondering though. How do you defeat an opponent who controls all of your senses, and already has control over almost all (if not all) of his opponents? I mean he can essentially make anything real in any of his opponents minds, and then casually walk up and stab each in the heart. Aizen's shikai is beyond any we have seen, so what will the mangaka do to get past that?
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 08:00 PM

Don't know, maybe something like Zaraki's strategy against Tousen.

On another note, I really hope that Shinji meant that they consider Ichigo part of their team otherwise it'll be too large a cliche to ignore.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 10:46 PM

View PostRob, on 10 July 2009 - 07:19 PM, said:

The artwork and layout in fight scenes are always a bit strained.

Im still wondering though. How do you defeat an opponent who controls all of your senses, and already has control over almost all (if not all) of his opponents? I mean he can essentially make anything real in any of his opponents minds, and then casually walk up and stab each in the heart. Aizen's shikai is beyond any we have seen, so what will the mangaka do to get past that?


I am sure that his powers aren’t omnipotent. He didn’t try to kill Unohana even though he knew that she will tell everyone about his betrayal and that might stop him from getting Rukia. Also if he were so powerful than he could have theoretically tried to kill every captain in SS when everyone still though that he was great guy but he didn’t do it either. It shows that he still isn’t almighty. His illusions are sure incredible but I am quit sure that there are some limitations and counters.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 03:27 AM

Hehe. We finally get the answer as to what took the Vizards so darn long to enter the battle~

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I am sure that his powers aren’t omnipotent. He didn’t try to kill Unohana even though he knew that she will tell everyone about his betrayal and that might stop him from getting Rukia. Also if he were so powerful than he could have theoretically tried to kill every captain in SS when everyone still though that he was great guy but he didn’t do it either. It shows that he still isn’t almighty. His illusions are sure incredible but I am quit sure that there are some limitations and counters.


I think he just doesn't see her as a threat to his plans, so no point in him doing something unnecessary like killing her. After all, she's just a healer.

Killing everyone in SS just like that doesn't seem like a very Aizen-thing to do. He's more of a strategist, and will only take action after coming up with a concrete plan. Besides, once he's king, he force the SS members to do his bidding anyway, so why kill them now?
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 07:25 AM

i agree with gwynhafra, aizen isnt the type to just kill everyone off--he'll just subdue them and have them work as his slaves or something. it's more entertaining for him that way, and besides, his true goal is God, he's looking upwards, not down to Soul Society which is like, beneath his notice except as an obstacle.

Ahhhh I have to say i loved the latest chapter. the Vizards are SO cool!! i loved their whole disdain for soul society/ loyalty to ichigo thing. and i was so relieved about kyoraku. i mean, yea i didnt think he was dead or anything, but i didnt want him to be down for the count either. i wonder if anyone who matters to us will even die? it feels like they never do in these battle manga...lotsa bleeding but no actual deaths. kinda annoying even though at the same time i dont want anyone i like to die.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 09:40 AM

View PostGwynhafra, on 11 July 2009 - 03:27 AM, said:

Hehe. We finally get the answer as to what took the Vizards so darn long to enter the battle~

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I think he just doesn't see her as a threat to his plans, so no point in him doing something unnecessary like killing her. After all, she's just a healer.

Killing everyone in SS just like that doesn't seem like a very Aizen-thing to do. He's more of a strategist, and will only take action after coming up with a concrete plan. Besides, once he's king, he force the SS members to do his bidding anyway, so why kill them now?


You have a point about Aizen being rather a strategist but you shouldn’t underestimate Unohana. Ukitake and Shunsui who graduated from shinigame academy 2000 years ago called her sempai which means that probably only Yamamoto himself is older than her (maybe they are even if it comes to age). Shunsui and Ukitake are also scarred of her and mentioned that they would never want to get on her bad side. In Bleach Data Book if it comes to stats than she is only second to Yamamoto and Aizen. I think that she is a lot more than just good healer but probably just doesn’t like to fight
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